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2006/9/23

Clinton Finally Says What Needs To Be Said!

@ 08:02 AM (23 months, 23 days ago)

In an interview to air on Fox News Sunday, former President Bill Clinton FINALLY says what needs to be said: he is the President that actually made the effort to capture Osama bin Laden, while his successor did ZERO.  Nada!

President Clinton said:

"But at least I tried. That's the difference in me and some, including all of the right-wingers who are attacking me now. They had eight months to try, they did not try. I tried. So I tried and failed.  I authorized the CIA to get groups together to try to kill him.  Now if you want to criticize me for one thing, you can criticize me for this: after the Cole, I had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban and launch a full-scale attack search for bin Laden. But we needed basing rights in Uzbekistan -- which we got after 9/11."

The right-wing attack machine has been busy re-writing history and portraying as facts things that never even happened, relative to what President Clinton did to fight terrorism.  And now, he has called their bluff! 

Clinton faults Bush for inaction on bin Laden

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  1. Now Clinton sez "HE TRIED AND FAILED" ????? So he finally admits "HE AND GORE ARE FAILURES" ???? americans kno that already !!!!!

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/23 @ 09:51 AM — (Reply)

  2. Of course your comment is totally disengenuous because you are misrepresenting his comment.

    When he says at least he tried and failed, that's probably a reference to 1998, when the U.S. government had intelligence that Osama was going to be at a certain location. Our forces went in to get him, but we apparently had just missed him by like an hour or two.

    Contrast that to George W. Bush, who now says he doesn't know or care where Osama is.

    Comment by SMillard— 2006/09/23 @ 11:55 AM — (Reply)

  3. HEY WHAT 'DA U KNO FIRST TIME EVER IN NEW YORK, SOMEONES COMMENTS CANT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.BUT ITS TIME TO SAY WHAT U MEAN AND MEAN WHAT U SAY. NOT CHANGE WHEN "PUBLIC REACTION" TURNS YOUR STANCE INTO A MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.IN 98 CLINTON ADAPTED VIEW OF "SPARE CIVILIANS" WAS A JOKE CAUSE "GIRLIE MAN" NEVER FIGHT WAR AGAINST AGGRESSORS BY "MISSED SHOT" NO CAN ONLY BE SUCCESS IF YOU HEAR THE WORD"GOOD SHOT" !!!!!

    Comment by aza spade— 2006/09/23 @ 01:24 PM — (Reply)

  4. Your use of the word "PROBABLY" sounds like you have doubt.

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/23 @ 02:19 PM — (Reply)

  5. Sounds a little to me like both Presidents' words are getting twisting a little. All in all it would have been nice if bin Laden had been knocked off in 98 but he wasn't and it is late for finger pointing and now we are past the bin Laden phase so it doesn't really matter.

    What looms on the horizon is the Iran - Israel showdown. Where the heck is that going to take the world?

    Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/23 @ 03:05 PM — (Reply)

  6. Barry, you say we are "past the bin Laden phase." bin Laden is responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans on U.S. soil. He has not been captured, killed or otherwise held accountable, and you say we are "past the bin Laden phase."

    You sound just like George Bush when he says he doesn't "know or care" where Osama is.

    Comment by SMillard— 2006/09/23 @ 05:16 PM — (Reply)

  7. There are literally "THOUSANDS" of "WANTED" persons, Most u catch on "traffic stops" , UBL will be picked up somewhere posing as a "tall" little girl using womens garmets to conciel his I.D.

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/23 @ 05:42 PM — (Reply)

  8. That isreali v iran thing is a good .... counts toward topic of "NEXT" , Here's your "IMMEDIATE FUTURE" See these people will never "SOLVE" tier problems cause everything is a problem ! just look at how they respond to anyone saying a dam thing about ANYTHING about them, like get real islami nazi you like a "BAD WIFE"......and right now I want my "FREEDOM" !!!!!!!!!

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/23 @ 05:48 PM — (Reply)

  9. I agree that bin Laden is a bad guy who should be and hopefully will be punished capitally before he dies of natural causes. Since 2001 the middle east has become a powder keg and it could start a huge nuclear conflagation which to me in the grand scheme of things is worse the bin Laden showing up on tv now and again.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/23 @ 07:39 PM — (Reply)

  10. THATS A DAMN GOOD POINT BARRY, THE MID EAST IS SET TO EXPLODE IN "BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS"...

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/24 @ 09:04 AM — (Reply)

  11. Let's hope they just keep it to themselves. Personally, I think either Israel or the UN should permanently relocate to Cuba.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/24 @ 02:52 PM — (Reply)

  12. THERE'S A THOUGHT........A SERIOUS THOUGHT....

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/24 @ 03:01 PM — (Reply)

  13. Barry, let's get back to the original point. Ask yourself why is it that Osama bin Laden is still able to pop up on your tv screen with a new video or audio tape every now and then.

    Ask yourself why is it that when George Bush was brief on 8/6/01 about bin Laden being determined to strike in the U.S., the only thing he could think of to say to the person briefing him was "All right. You've covered your ass now."

    Ask yourself why George Bush went from saying he was going to hunt Osama down and smoke him out, and he wanted him dead or alive, to now saying he doesn't know or care where Osama is.

    And that is the point that President Clinton was trying to make to Chris Wallace.

    Comment by SMillard— 2006/09/24 @ 03:42 PM — (Reply)

  14. The point on 9/24/06 is exactly what? Exactly what has bin laden done other than hide and unlike saddam SO FAR not been captured and jailed?

    bin laden is a marginalized non factor. Bugs Bunny shows up on TV sometimes so does Daffy Duck. Neither affect my life. Neither does bin laden. What is your point?

    The real and dangerous point today 9/24/06 is that the middle east extremists are poised for a very catastrophic confrontation that has nothing to do with bin laden. That is the point.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/24 @ 03:57 PM — (Reply)

  15. That's exactly my point Barry. Osama bin Laden is warm and comfy wherever he is right now.

    He has not been brought to justice.

    Are you saying to me that you don't care that the man responsible for nearly 3,000 murders on September 11, has not been brought to justice?

    Moreover, sadly, I would say that Osama bin Laden has not been marginalized. It pains me to say this, but he is like some revered Godfather or beloved hero to these Islamic extremists who believe that if they kill innocent Americans who have nothing to do with the policies of the U.S. government, then they will be rewarded in heaven. That if they crash planes into buildings, causing people to jump to their death, then their heavenly father awaits them.


    This is the viewpoint that Osama has passed to a new generation of extremists. That is why I don't believe he is marginalized.

    But it sounds to me as though you don't want him brought to justice, or you don't care if he ever is.

    Comment by SMillard— 2006/09/24 @ 06:08 PM — (Reply)

  16. DAMN RIGHT .......

    Comment by jim— 2006/09/24 @ 05:00 PM — (Reply)

  17. BTW...President Clinton NEVER said President Bush did NADA.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/24 @ 05:17 PM — (Reply)

  18. TO S.MILLARD, WHAT IF THERE WAS A "PERSON" WHO "GETS IT" BUT COULDNT GET "IT" ACROSS TO OTHERS OF THIER PARTY????????

    Comment by aza spade— 2006/09/24 @ 06:14 PM — (Reply)

  19. Nope. That is not what my words say. My words say specifically that he should be brought to justice and that bringing him to justice will not solve the middle east time bomb. Further, the middle east time bomb is not the fault of Presidents Clinton or Bush.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/24 @ 06:46 PM — (Reply)

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