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"Mr. President, my estimate is that 90 percent — 90 percent — of the population of New Orleans has now been displaced."

@ 10:15 PM (110 months, 15 days ago)

So in his interview with Brian Williams today, Michael Brown revealed that on Tuesday, August 30, during a secure conference call, his first words to Idiot Son regarding Katrina were:

"Mr. President, my estimate is that 90 percent — 90 percent — of the population of New Orleans has now been displaced."

After Idiot Son responds "90 percent?" Michael Brown replies "Yes sir, I believe it is that bad. That's how bad it is."

Yet despite this warning, and the warnings that he received before Katrina and in the immediate aftermath of Katrina, George W. Bush still had to be shown a DVD of various newscasts from NOLA, to make him see the reality of what was happening on the ground.

Clearly, this calls into question his mental capacity to understand and grasp important information.

If Bush couldn't comprehend and understand that 90% of the residents of NOLA had been displaced, do we really want him to be the one carrying the nuclear football and having the codes?

I think his inability to understand and grasp vital information should be an impeachable offense in itself.

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  1. Please refrain from describing the President of the United States as an idiot. You and your view points have more importance when you just state the facts or your opinion minus the offensive slanders.
    id·i·ot (d-t)

    1. A foolish or stupid person.
    2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

    Comment by Susan Murphy-Milano— 2006/02/27 @ 10:28 PM — (Reply)

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  5. Susan's right, SM, you lose credibility when you are hateful. Your hampering your own cause by alientating reader's you could otherwise impact. It just comes off as propoganda.

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  6. No Susan is not right, Cate.

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  7. There you go making generalizations - when have I called anyone "white trach" - my name is Cate, not Ann Coulter. You, on the other hand, you personally, continually use hateful speech and are insulting.

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    And calling me a neo-fascist coward is really brave - just like attacking Susan when she suggested you tone down your rhetoric.

    Cowardice means running when you are afraid - not facing down your opponent . We both came onto your turf and spoke our minds and you've taken cheap shots. You, Shalana, are the coward. And not worth one more minute of my time.

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  8. First of all, I didn't say YOU personally called anyone white trash.

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    Comment by SMillard— 2006/02/28 @ 07:27 PM — (Reply)

  9. I just renounced her in the last post. Shame on John McCain. Rush Limbaugh was wrong. Michael Savage should shouldn't say those ugly things. And to say cruel about people instead of discussing facts is cowardice - which is why I advised you not give away your position, whatever it is, by joining into the hate. The truth is a two-edged sword. It cuts both ways and both sides are spewing some pretty venomous things for which they should all be ashamed.

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  10. Well, I am glad you finally renounced what your Republican friends had to say. I wonder if you would have the courage to call Rush Limbaugh and tell him his kind of rhetoric has no place in our society. I doubt it. But kudos to you for at least disavowing his comments.

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    Comment by Cate— 2006/03/01 @ 12:37 AM — (Reply)

  12. As far as the DVD, yes, it was just news footage on there.

    According to the article, even Communications Director Dan Bartlett realized that Bush did not understand the reality of what was happening on the ground, so he made him a DVD of some of the newcasts from NOLA.

    And I think it should bother ALL of us that George Bush had to be shown a DVD to understand the impact of the greatest natural disaster on U.S. Soil.

    He just didn't "get it."

    Regarding Mayor Nagin and the bus situation, he has debunked that claim ad nauseum.

    I remember him saying that while they did have buses, they didn't have the personnel to DRIVE the buses and transport the people.

    I will Google that again and post the info, but that's what I remember him saying.

    Comment by SMillard— 2006/03/01 @ 10:52 PM — (Reply)

  13. They have personnel driving those buses every day - in fact, they actually pay people to drive those buses EVERY DAY. Little kiddies going back and forth to school 9 months of the year, Mr. and Ms. Smith hopping the public transit to and from work.... what suddenly the bus drivers forgot how to do it?

    He may have debunked that to an audience who wants to believe every word he utters - but that just doesn't even make sense. And if a weather condition shuts down the city transit - they have organized chains of command and phone trees to contact drivers - they couldn't put those into place?

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    Comment by Cate— 2006/03/01 @ 11:30 PM — (Reply)

  14. And where in the HOLY Hdes was the Governor - the person with the real purse strings for state emergencies? Preparation is 100% a STATE responsibility.

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  16. Well of course they usually have personnel driving those buses! DUH!

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  18. I've been skimming through this blog for a while now and I had to post on this topic. Yes, there is plenty of blame to share between state, county, and federal officials in Gulf Coast region. There aren't many people who are standing up and saying 'Yes, I and/or we f*cked up and this is what needs to be done to reduce the damage after another natural disaster.'

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    Many people did what they could to help their fellow man, regardless of color during the hurricane but some people gave into the first law of nature and took care or themselves and/or their own.

    Comment by Chris— 2006/03/02 @ 02:06 PM — (Reply)

  19. Of course, but since my husband has to walk away from his family to do his job - I would assume others are that noble. Perhaps, that's not true in NOLA.

    Comment by Cate— 2006/03/02 @ 08:45 AM — (Reply)

  20. and btw, I live in a community with a large number of inhabitants who do not have personal transportation. Step one wrt those people is for the school buses and tour buses to be reallocated to the emergency response effort - they are immediately dispatched to retrieve the non-driving population.

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